FLOTHE: Friday morning. When Hansen drove up to Paulson and propositioned her, she agreed to get into his car. Hes amazing. For the life of me, i cant see any reason why the state of Alaska, or anyone would keep robert Hansen alive after his conviction Why would you keep a monster like this alive and have the peoples tax money feed such an animal for years.. Cant wrap my head around it.. Alaska does not have the death penalty and has never had it (since Statehood). The identity of one of his victims, who was found near Horseshoe lake north of Anchorage has never been established and now her remains are being exhumed. As soon as he was of age Robert joined the Army reserves and moved to another town where he found himself a wife, but he was still treated badly. Glenn had been involved in the investigation of three murdered women; these victims had obviously been connected, they had all been discovered at least partially nude, theyd been shot with the same type of firearm, and buried in a shallow grave. FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? Hansen would kidnap the women at gunpoint, tie them up, then fly to remote areas to kill them. Can you talk about your fun cameo in Machete Kills and what that experience was like? The killer received a 461-year sentence in February 1984, pleading guilty to four of the murders. CINDY: About eleven, eleven-thirty. Being in an office meant that team building happened naturally, and to re-create that connection virtually, takes a lot of To be authentic, inclusion needs action behind it. Once inside, Hansen pulled a gun on her and placed her in handcuffs. If it was something technical, of course, it would take a couple more takes, but for the most part, hes the kind of director that filled me in, let me know the mood that he wanted to convey and where he wanted it to land. I just had no idea what it would be like for me to be fully authentic at work.. She was a prostitute who was kidnapped and raped before managing to escape, but when she went to the police, Hansen evaded arrest because the lead investigator didn't . Kids in England had to wear masks at school because No10 'didn't want an argument' with Nicola Sturgeon - Health ministers knew there was no evidence to justify making kids abide by rule of 6 - but No10 'didn't Matt Hancock branded teaching unions 'absolute a**es' in leaked WhatsApp messages with then-education Holiday home owners in Scotland face new SNP tax hike under plans from front-runner to be new First Scotland should just self-identify as an independent country, one SNP member proposed. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. As you know, the only electronic I open is a crappy android. As shown in 'The Frozen Ground,' Cindy Paulson was Hansen's only victim who got away while he was trying to load her into his aircraft. I overslept. This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. The security guard at that time The only thing which he ever seemed to truly succeed in, the one thing which others commended him for, were his exceptional hunting skills. And do what he pleased with her. RH: Yes. It had never crossed her mind. Cindy I notice that you are visibly upset and have tears and crying. The woman, who was believed to in her late teens was found on April 25, 1984, near Horseshoe Lake. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. After hed heard what Cindy had to say, Glenn knew a few things to be true. This is a very intense film. All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and there's no telling how much longer he would've lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of '83. We are all the same. You rarely see mention of them, other than the fact that they existed, and I read through multiple articles before I even spotted Mrs. Hansens first name. Cindy Paulson was just 17 years old when she moved to Anchorage Alaska. The Big Timber, Mush Inn, I dont, sorry, I cant remember which one. And we got to the house and he drug me downstairs to the as soon as you walk in theres a carpet to the right. Being able to take those and meditate on them myself and make her memories my own memories put me in the right head space. Same with the two sexual assaults; I have an arrest date of December 1971, but as for the date of the crimes or whether he was arrested for both at the same time (which I assume to be the case) is unclear. Required fields are marked *. Survivor Cindy, who is a married mother of three today. Robert thoroughly enjoyed hunting humans; these ladies were savagely murdered with his favorite weapons: a Ruger Mini-14 and a hunting knife. CINDY: I think he gave me a five. Facebook gives people the power to. CINDY: He wrote it down on a (inaudible). A metallic green Buick Century. *Though its not super graphic or bloody, this article does contain a couple of images of the killer posing with hunted game animals. FLOTHE: What did the gun look like? FLOTHE: Make sure you look through the whole book before you decide. Now a bad childhood doesnt excuse cold blooded murder, of course, but it can help shed light on how some people are capable of committing atrocities such as these while the majority of us are not. Published: 09:00 GMT, 4 September 2014 | Updated: 01:18 GMT, 4 December 2016, Alaskan serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed 17 women in the early 1970s and 80s. It was smooth like Figure 20s handle, but the gun was shaped like Figure 21. CINDY: Right around Fourth and Denali. I just wanted a chance to work with Robert Rodriguez. (inaudible) He joined the ADN in 2004 and was also an editor and investigative reporter at KTUU-TV. Alaska's Missing Planes and People. Thats why he did it. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. CINDY: Nope. CINDY: Yep. And he fuckin had a tan or an Army green tan coat or Army green And boots. I understand youre in early talks for The Kitchen Sink which has been described as a monster genre mash-up. If hed just murdered those women, they couldnt have turned him in, and he wouldnt have been in trouble not committing violent crimes was never an option. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. In June 1983, one of his victims, Cindy Paulson, managed to escape his car as he loaded his plane to take her to his cabin. Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walkers suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of the few victims that managed to escape Alaskas most notorious serial killer, Robert Hansen (John Cusack). As was Hansens wont, he wanted to feel things out. And it may not even be in there. This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. CINDY: He said that he would like to have some company. CINDY: OK. How was the directing process with Scott Walker? Her circumstances were different and not ideal for most, but that was just her current state. FLOTHE: Hmm. FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? FLOTHE: Either he had opened it or it was already open? Lets touch on this serials background for a minute, because thats important when looking at a killer. CINDY: Theres no trees in the front yard. View the profiles of people named Cindy Paulson. Purchase Butcher, Baker, Your email address will not be published. Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. Her name is Cindy Paulson. CINDY: Because when I drove past the house there was a sign that said Dead End. FLOTHE: What do you mean by a cut in the back? CINDY: Some times they were. CINDY: Yep. If his social life hadnt been bad enough, he never could find much solace at home, either. There was a bullet hole in the floor. And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. How do you feel about the final film now that youve seen it? CINDY: It was a really dark color. FLOTHE: What was he driving then, Sunday night? CINDY: No. And it had a long barrel (turning of pages) like Figure 4 or (pause) Figure 2. FLOTHE: Tapes turned back on. Is this part of a deliberate strategy to develop further as an actress and put the High School 3 image behind? No comments have so far been submitted. I operated behind a work persona. He confessed to sometimes releasing the women in the woods in order to stalk and hunt them before the murders. The avid hunter would strip his victim naked (often in subzero temperatures) and simply set her free. But that's not the only discrepancy, another Hansen victim, DeLynn Frey, reportedly also was found near the same lake on the same day, but Mr Hoage said Frey was found near another lake in 1985. FLOTHE: Thank you. Robert Hansens first encounter with Cindy Paulson seemed inauspicious. FLOTHE: Did he tell you what his name was? He takes me up the stairs to the garage, I mean, to the house. I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. CINDY: Bob and then Don. It was Don, and then OK, it was Don and then after we were at his place, and he was going to take me to the airport, he was saying about Bob. Kidnapped: Cindy Paulson, Part II July 18, 2017 Admin Leave a comment This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. And he had called me and I slept through it. The woman, who was. FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? As of 5:30 Saturday afternoon theres a new article available. This actually wasnt an uncommon thing for parents to do during this time period, plenty of us lefties in past generations were forced to conform, but apparently this deeply scarred this young man. Cause I still got marks from the handcuffs on my hands. He was messin with my neck and I was kinda trippin. Daily News reporter Sean Doogan contributed to this story. And then up here on my hand, right in the middle. 2022 Anchorage Daily News. So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. Scott did an amazing job at keeping a very steady uproar and pace. He often found his victims among topless dancers and prostitutes in downtown Anchorage. FLOTHE: Did he approach you or did you approach him? Apparently youre bothered by this? A mousy, seemingly easy-natured family man, Hansen admitted to killing 17 woman and raping another 30 over a dozen years in the 1970s and 1980s. If Im unsure of something, I promise to tell you, and yall the dates in this case about drove me nuts. I absolutely adore him. CINDY: Um hmm. "When you kill that many women there's a good chance you may have killed some convict's girlfriend," said Bob Spinde, who was in charge of prisoner records. *EDIT * Cindy did not escape from the plane, she hopped out of his car. He found an outlet for his feelings of sexual rejection and frustration through criminalityfirst via smaller displays of power like kleptomania, then graduating to arson, burning down a school bus garage in his hometown of Pocahontas, Iowa in 1960, a crime for which he served 20 months in prison. Or was it some other color? The woman tried to escape and he pulled out a gun, he said. Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. Every time it was in my face. FLOTHE: Did he call you first or did he just come by? * I would like to talk about Roberts wife, Darla, and their two children for a minute. We recently landed an exclusive interview with Hudgens who talked about her reaction when she first read the script, how meeting the real Cindy Paulson helped inform her portrayal of the character, why it was important to her that audiences see Paulson as a real human being and not a stereotype, what she learned from working with experienced actors like Cage and Cusack who inspired her performance, how Walkers enthusiasm and energy kept the atmosphere on set upbeat despite the dark subject matter, and what she discovered about herself in the process of making the film. Hansen confessed to authorities that he had killed 17. Im a little confused about when the airplane seat got in and out of the car. Donations & Patreon membership will go towards keeping this site running. CINDY: Um hmm. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. Cindy coughs.) Glenn Flothe, AST. Laurel Andrews was a reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska Dispatch News and Alaska Dispatch. CINDY: I dont think so. So you go into the garage, what happens then, when you get into the garage? What Cindy Paulson escaped is mind-numbing. What did you learn about yourself in the process of making this film? And it was just the usual chitchat, you know, asking, you know, got in the car and asked, how you doing and so forth and whether I was looking for a good time and so forth. What made you want to do it? After he was convicted of committing murder, Darla finally let go of her marriage; she promptly divorced her husband, then she and the kids moved back to Arkansas to be with family. CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. But after some bodies were found by hunters in the area, investigators re-visited suspects and realized he fit the profile. CINDY: Uh huh. Though Cindy was able to describe her attacker and his home in great detail, it didnt make any difference. FLOTHE: Were the handcuffs tight? Ducks and birds. He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. In the early morning of June 13th 1983, (months before the other bodies were found) Cindy Paulson appeared on the side of the road. FLOTHE: What did he ask you? (inaudible) Big ol like caribou and goats heads, big ones stuffed everywhere. As part of his plea deal, Hansen agreed to help authorities find the graves of the murdered women. The security guard had came up I dont know if I was in the back laying down when he [the security guard] did. CINDY: He approached me. And that, um, I was lucky because usually the other ones stayed a week. "He was mild-mannered Bob the Baker, and as I'm looking at him, all of sudden he transformed. FLOTHE: You drove past the house? CINDY: Thats it. She left the ADN in October 2018. (pause) When did you first see this man, Cindy? STEPHEN Don't just stick to the Malbec! CINDY: Um hmm In order to keep their witness close, the state trooper and his wife befriended the young survivor, then Glenn reached out to the FBI. FLOTHE: Was there anything else unusual about the house? Hansens Weapon Cache (courtesy Alaska State Troopers; found in the attic of Hansens residence; note the handgun at center left), Your email address will not be published. CINDY: Yep. What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? Its another fun, more light-hearted character that the audiences have never seen me do before. Later the girl stated that she had immediately known that those seven other women had been murdered, and she was very determined not to become number eight! He never learned her real name, he said. ): And we pulled over to the side, by the side of the house, and I proceeded to give him a blowjob. And if Im not mistaken I think he got green or blue eyes. But Cindy could feel California clients and BCs culture were becoming more open and it felt like the right time to be fully herself at work. Hudgens: I dont like talking about anything until I sign my contract, which I havent done yet, but it will happen most likely pretty soon. CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. FLOTHE: On the inside of your left wrist. FLOTHE: Did you give him your phone number or did he write it down on something? CINDY: Yes, its real Hell yeah, Im bothered by it. FLOTHE: Did you have conversation, then, with him on Friday? Sadly in a roundabout way Robert brought upon his own two children the same thing which had traumatized him, his kids were bullied mercilessly for their fathers evil acts. Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. FLOTHE: You also described the outside of the house. FLOTHE: Do you feel that he was going to hurt you? And the reality of it is were all human. With a wood handle. FLOTHE: I wanna show you six pictures, Cindy, and the person that were talking about may or may not be in here. Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. My wife and family were down in Arkansas visiting her folks places and, um, I had met her the first time up town. CINDY: Its blue with a big ol picture window and the whole house is If you drive down Old Harbor Road, the windows on the right side and the garage is to the left. Kyle Hopkins is special projects editor of the Anchorage Daily News. Police suspected the real death toll was even higher. Cindy . He doesnt mess around. Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. FLOTHE: And then you overslept and consequently didnt meet him. CINDY: Yep. Darla had truly believed that if she stuck it out, she could eventually talk Robert into going to church with her more often she thought that she could save the soul of the man shed vowed before God to love, and her marriage would be fixed as well. And um, after he had got the condom on, I kept doing it, and then he kept feeling around my neck, like he was just trippin, playing around with my neck and my necklaces. FLOTHE: Ah. CINDY: Yes. Hudgens: I thought it was pretty spot on. FLOTHE: So it had a longer barrel than FLOTHE: Turning the tape off at 8:34 pm. FLOTHE: Like a station wagon? FLOTHE: Did he seem pretty sincere about wanting to get with you? And, getting to that point, "it's so powerful," she says. Hansens House, Old Harbor Road (copyright Leland E. Hale). CINDY: Well, I didnt. (inaudible). FLOTHE: What kind of boots? Cindy had been with BC for 14 years (more than 30 years to date), managing a region and leading many projects when she felt something was missing. Kids can be so cruel; while the boys his own age poked fun of and beat on him, the girls all laughed about how ugly he was. It seems most likely that he was arrested for the sexual assaults in December of 71, remained in trouble with the law (he served a short prison sentence) throughout 72, and probably started killing after his release. ROBERT HANSEN (RH): Uh, you want me, Sir, to start when I first met this CINDY PAULSON the first time or, RH: or what? Way down on the floor. CINDY: Uh huh. Paulson told Flothe in her interview, which is published in full on Leland Hale's website, the man who wrote Butcher, Baker: The True Account of an Alaskan Serial Killer: CINDY: He just said,. The infamous Special Agent John Douglas took a look at the case, and he informed the trooper that his perpetrator would likely have a stutter! The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. Growing up Robert was scrawny, he had this terrible stutter, and a super bad case of acne; all of this made him the target of bullies everywhere. But he had brown socks on. Black or brown? A MAJOR PHILANTHROPIST. CINDY: The Buick car, inside the garage. (laughs) Its a quick little cameo. He seemed really like a pretty good guy. FLOTHE: Really dark color. Email khopkins@adn.com. I chatted there with her a little bit and, uh, made an agreement with her that I was going to see her sometime. CINDY: Yeah. This link contains non-graphic crime scene photos from Robert Hansen, it is mostly of the grave sites. (Source: Anchorage Police Department) Cindy Paulson was a 17-year-old dancer and sex worker living in Anchorage with her mother. Hudgens: Nothing that I want to talk about quite yet. I was just I was hysterical and shocked, didnt know what to do, he was chasing after me with a gun. However, she was never identified and Hansen died last month aged 75, while serving a 461-year sentence in Alaska. I just want to do everything. This is Sunday night or early Monday morning? CINDY: Yeah. I feel like women have an easier time separating from their characters than men do, honestly. CINDY: He just drove by. Were the lights on or off? Mr Hoage said the woman was among cases of unidentified and missing people that were being reviewed by the center, with authorities receiving permission for the exhumation, the day before Hansen died. CINDY: The automatic opener. FLOTHE: OK. And hes driving the same car. I wish we could say for sure that this was Roberts final victim, but its thought that there were probably more. He joined the ADN in 2004. About four stairs to get into the house. Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansens house on Old Harbor Road. Like a little Datsun station wagon. With Patreon you will receive exclusive posts and more, Morbid N' Macabre - 2023. CINDY: The same person. "As far as Hansen is concerned, this world is better without him." Workers and drug dealers and dancers came and went, many with few ties to the state and no one to notice if they went missing. First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. He remains active in the markets. With a cut in the back. She is known for her incredible homemade bars that she shares with riders while they enjoy the scenic views of nature along the trail. Cindy Paulson Interview with Sgt. When he was arrested for the sexual assaults, Robert had claimed to have been an innocent man, and she believed what hed told her; shed had her suspicions that her husband may have been a cheater who possibly enjoyed the company of an escort every once in a while, but a woman killer? Hansen said that victim is the woman known to police as Eklutna Annie, a roughly 20-year-old brunette whose body was discovered in 1980 by electric workers repairing a power line outside Eagle River. Dont cause no problems and I wont hurt you. Stephen Hoage, operations administrator for the state medical examiner's office said: 'We know what happened to her. So its immoral to make snap judgments about people. FLOTHE: How did he get in? FLOTHE: What was your phone number at that time? We must step back and reflect to see new opportunities for growth. FLOTHE: And about what time was that? CINDY (cont. In the 1960s he moved to Anchorage and opened a bakery of his own in a strip mall at Ninth Avenue and Ingra Street. A one-stop-shop for all things video games. Its going to have to be a little bit vague on that. CINDY: Im positive. "On this day we should only remember his many victims and all of their families, and my heart goes out to all of them," said Glenn Flothe, a retired Alaska state trooper who was instrumental in Hansen's 1984 capture. And he contacts you. FLOTHE: OK. Its been some time since you last talked to him, in fact, its been quite some time. I know I have support from leadership and throughout, and thats a great feeling., As the executive sponsor of BCs employee network group for women, Cindy worked to amplify the Balance and Belonging culture and framework internally and externally across an industry with historical nature of the industry being male dominated. He had been placed in medical segregation in Anchorage, which is akin to being in the hospital, Daigle said at the time. Other times, he would let the women go free in the wilderness and then hunt them with his rifle. The many other women who fell into Hansen's grasp were flown into the alaskan wilderness, near the Knik River, where Hansen had a cabin. Top nutrition scientist says you should drink as many varieties as possible UK's electric car revolution stalls: Britain falling behind US and Europe in race to become an EV Charles evicting Harry and Meghan is the act of a King putting his country first: REBECCA ENGLISH reveals A royal princess at Eton? Im not correct on the times, OK? CINDY: Like a convertible (inaudible), 1978 Buick Century 4-Door Sedan (This photo is NOT Hansens Buick, but it is similar). Im sorry I dont remember the right dates and so forth. And I really, really If there was any chance of me getting away, he wasnt getting away with it. 37 Cindy Paulson Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images CREATIVE Collections Project #ShowUs Creative Insights EDITORIAL VIDEO BBC Motion Gallery NBC News Archives MUSIC BLOG BROWSE PRICING ENTERPRISE VisualGPS INSIGHTS BOARDS CART SIGN IN Images Images Creative Editorial Video Creative Editorial FILTERS CREATIVE EDITORIAL VIDEO He was really sweet. CINDY: Um hmm. My left wrist, right there His alibi - two friends - also admitted they had been lying. In 1984 this serial was sentenced to 461 years, a ridiculous amount of years to ensure that he would never be released again. She described the kidnapper and his plane to authorities, but when police questioned him, he had an alibi and a gentle demeanor, so they let him go. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. CINDY: They were a dark brown. You know, I was supposed to meet him. FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. The remains of an unidentified victim of an Alaskan serial killer who hunted down his victims as if they were game have been exhumed in a bid to establish who she was. At the motel, police found 17-year-old Cindy Paulson, still handcuffed, huddled fearfully in a room. Hansen landed in a federal prison in Pennsylvania but didn't get along with other inmates.He served time in Minnesota before returning to Alaska in May 1988, corrections officials said at the time. CINDY: And then up here to where I was starting to get it off. 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Instead he would immediately force her to board his small bush plane, and hed fly her out to a desolate area near Knik River where he would sexually assault her in a little shack which hed occupied there. OK, that wasnt even back there. That was everywhere in the whole In the basement there was fish, there was wolf skin, there was stuffed animals everywhere. Kidnapped: The True Story of Cindy Paulson, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. Once theyd arrived Robert left his handcuffed victim in the back seat of his vehicle while he loaded his aircraft as per usual; Cindy waited until her captor was distracted, and when she saw her chance she jumped out of the car and ran for her life! Required fields are marked *. FLOTHE: The same person. Daigle, the corrections official, said that as far as she knows Hansen never saw the film. Maybe they were different frames. Investigators are certain that number 17 is small it is thought that Roberts body count is really in the thirties. Hudgens: It was so helpful. You know, I was supposed to meet him. Did he have a moustache, Cindy? CINDY: Um I think it was around six. I didnt know, there was, uh I I I couldnt see her that night cause it was during the week and Im running my bakery and I start there at 1:00 in the morning and, uh, she give me a phone number there for her at one of the motels. The Special Agent had known that this killer would be into collecting trophies from his victims, that he would have very little self worth, and that hed have a burning hatred for women you know, the usual type thing, but to pinpoint this killers stutter is truly astonishing! [Installment Three]. 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